Why I'm Leaving Mormonism
Introduction
If you're reading this its because you want to understand why I'm leaving the fold. A lot of what I'm going to say in this document is considered heresy by the Mormon church. Having said that, if you really really want to know, keep reading. Otherwise if you're comfortable being a Mormon, and have no issues or confusions whatsoever with Church history or doctrine, maybe you should not read anymore. It might make you start questioning many things you think you know about your faith.
Understand that I write this from my heart and I have no intention of offending anyone, especially many of the Mormon friends I have made in the last few years. Even if I decide to never set foot in a Mormon Church again the rest of my life, that does not make me a person that dislikes Mormons. I love the friends I've made, and will always be friendly towards Mormons. They are some of the nicest and kindest people I've ever met in this world. Understand that I have not "lost" my testimony. I'm not leaving the Church because I'm a bad person, or committed some sin, or somebody offended me.
On Feelings
How often do you hear in church "I know the church is true" or "I know Joseph Smith was a prophet" etc etc ? Why do Mormons believe in their faith and Church so strongly ? The missionaries teach that you pray to know the truth, and you receive a burning in your bosom. I myself received this same feeling when I first read the Book of Mormon (henceforth to be referred to as BoM in this document). I too once thought that I knew the Church was true. I wanted to believe in an eternal life, and a family forever, and all the other wonderful stuff that Mormonism packages so well. It presents you all the answers to life. In Mormonism there is no need to question anything, you just know. I submit to you the reader that this is a false and incorrect way to know anything. Knowledge is not gained by faith or a warm fuzzy feeling. As Plato once said, true knowledge is a subset of that which is both true and believed.
In the Church, we really don't know, we believe. Those are two very different things. What should be said in fast and testimony meeting is "We believe the church is true" but you never hear that. Where does this word know come from ? I personally believe this is from the indoctrination that members of the Church have been subjected to since they were first members, or since they were raised in the church as impressionable children. I remember from a very young age being surrounded at church by people who know. When it is repeatedly drilled into your head eventually you're going to come around to that way of thinking, it is a technique used in many cultures and religions to influence a persons thinking. Call it brainwashing if you will, or maybe you would rather call it Sunday School instead ? Or Seminary, or any other number of things that have been a part of my life from the Church and have influenced my thinking. As little children we don't really have a testimony right ? We are leaning on the testimonies of others around us. Eventually we are supposed to gain our own, but what if your perception of gaining your own testimony is really just the result of this indoctrination ?
And what about that burning in the bosom ? This is supposed to be the manifestation of the Holy Ghost testifying to you. Mormons are the only true church on the Earth right ? That means that the Holy Ghost will only manifest to people when they ask about joining our Church right ? What about all the other countless religions in the world full of members who will stand before you and testify of the truth of their religion with tear streaked faces who think they know and will tell you about their identical "burning in the bosom" feeling. Can you dismiss them ? Is Satan giving them this feeling ? Or is it, as the Church refers to it, The Light Of Christ. Nice that, an excuse to trivialize the feelings of others. Its just the Light of Christ. Can you measure it ? How do you know the difference ? Is it because you were dunked in water ? I submit to the reader, that this is your own mind, creating these wonderful feelings to confirm your already preexisting bias. I can feel the Holy Ghost when I see the last scene of The Matrix, or the scene from Lord Of The Rings when the King is reunited with his Elvish lover. It feels the same.
Still with me ? If you've read this far thats great. A lot of what I've said so far is opinion and speculation. After this I will present some facts for the reader to examine.
Conflict of the Mind
When a persons brain is presented with truth or fact that contradicts their beliefs strange things start happening. Many describe this experience as cognitive dissonance. Its really really hard to believe Joseph Smith was a prophet when presented with a mountain of evidence contrary to that belief. This is what happened to me. I found truth and it warred in my brain with my beliefs. Finally I had to accept these truths in order to come to a true knowledge. Others may come to a different conclusion, and thats fine, my intention is not to persuade, but to help you understand my experience.
The Book of Abraham
My journey to apostasy started when I inadvertently watched a documentary about the Book Of Abraham (henceforth to be referred to as BoA in this document). I saw it on an online documentary website, and thought it sounded cool. After all, the Book Of Abraham is a very important piece of Mormon scripture.
You can watch it here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcyzkd_m6KE.
And there is a great essay here http://www.irr.org/mit/Books/BHOH/bhoh1.html
Wikipedia entry here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Abraham
If you are afraid to watch it, or dismiss it outright, thats too bad. If Mormonism is true, then shouldn't it stand up to criticism ? Overcoming criticism should give you even more faith. Being objective is probably one of the hardest things for a Mormon, speaking from personal experience. After all, we know everything already right ?
After watching this movie, which basically made Joseph Smith look like a fraud, my brain was a bit shocked. This film presented the evidence in a very unbiased neutral way as any scientific documentary should. It didn't feel anti-Mormon to me at all.
Of course I immediately thought this was the intention, those anti-Mormons must have just pulled off a great piece of propaganda and fooled even me! This didn't stop the nagging sensation in my brain though. So I went to Google. Oh my ! Just Google Mormonism sometime and get a big shock. I've never tried it before. SO MUCH INFORMATION.
Naturally there are tons of anti-Mormon things on the internet, but you can't dismiss all of it. There is a lot that is not anti at all and very well presented. Truth is truth. I found even more evidence of the BoA being a fraud, and that the Church managed to get the original scrolls and had their own independent studies done on them with the same conclusions. It was a book of breathing for some dead Egyptian dude named Hor. The Church did its best to spin this after the results came out during the late 1960's. For the most part they did a decent job of damage control, but mostly they just tried to ignore the evidence. Too bad the internet didn't exist back then.
Excuses are like faces.....
Enter the apologists. Those people who are usually members of the Church and already have their conclusion formed before even presenting their case (not very scientific). Trust me I've read a lot of apologist essays and writings over the last several months, and none of it persuaded me. Speculation, opinion, and grasping at straws is what it all looked like to me. I'm sure it works to persuade some faltering members as it was intended to.
Here are a couple of the places I went to get the Church's response to almost any criticism :
http://fairlds.org/
http://farms.byu.edu/
They try, they really do, but I'm only getting started. There is more, a lot more. I found all kinds of things.
The First Vision
Did you know that the First Vision really had many different versions?
http://www.irr.org/mit/First-Vision-Accounts.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Vision
Thats only one link, I found a lot more and whats really damaging is the references are pulled from official Church publications and even Joseph Smith History ! This is revisionist history.
Polygamy and Polyandry
What about Joseph Smiths practice of polygamy and polyandry ? If you visit the Church's official Joseph Smith site, they have a nice little romantic area detailing the relationship between Emma and Joseph. Isn't that sweet ? They completely leave out all the other women.
Read the sanitized version : http://josephsmith.net
Then read this : http://www.wivesofjosephsmith.org/
And even the Church's sponsored genealogy website has them all listed.
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/AF/individual_record.asp?recid=7762167
Why hide it or not talk about it ? Would you let your 14 year old daughter marry the prophet ? How about letting him marry your wife ? Oh yes, there are historical documents and references to back that up too. I'll leave the exercise of finding them on the net up to the reader.
Reaching Some Conclusions
By this time my picture of Joseph Smith is changing in my head. I read about his treasure hunting, of which he was briefly on trial for a little before his "translating" the BoM (on record). The face in the hat thing, which is spoken of by a witness and also recorded in a Church publication. Ever wonder why all the witnesses to the BoM left the church ?
So if JS didn't really translate the BoA, then it stands to reason he really didn't translate the BoM either. If you can't believe he was a prophet, the rest just falls apart.
Changes to the Book of Mormon
How about changes to the original BoM after it was first published ? And these are not just grammatical or syntax changes like the Church tries to make you think. Here is just one link of hundreds I found that analyze these changes.
http://www.saintsalive.com/mormonism/bomchanges.htm
I can point out many other ways the Church has altered or whitewashed some of its own history, but anyone who can use Google can find it all there.
The Temple and Freemasonry
Regarding the temple. Didn't you guys feel silly or weird wearing those aprons and funny caps ? And the secret handshakes ! I've never been to the temple, so I can't speak from personal experience but I've read enough about it from different places that are consistent enough for me to believe what I've read. I've even spoken to family members about it.
Why don't you get taught about whats going on in there until you are actually there ? Why ? Because its frigging weird and completely different from the rest of the Church dogma. Did you know JS stole the entire first Endowment ceremony from Freemasonry ? There are even more things I found documenting this. Even the handshakes are the same. What about how the ceremony has been changed over the years, including the Blood Oaths being removed in 1990 ? Gee I wonder why they did that. It probably freaked out some converts. Shoot, it would freak me out if I wasn't expecting it.
Garments have freemasonry symbols on them, and even the exteriors of many temples have freemasonry symbols on them. Some would argue that freemasonry is a throwback to the old testament temple ceremony, but there is no historical evidence to support freemasonry existing any earlier then the 1400s. Then there is the fact that JS became a Freemason very shortly before he created the Endowment ceremony. This is also recorded in many places.
Some links:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemasonry_and_the_Latter_Day_Saint_movement
http://www.irr.org/mit/masonry.html
DNA versus the Book of Mormon
How about the DNA evidence that proves there is absolutely no link between American Indians and Hebrews ? They came over the land bridge from Asia. I don't buy that Limited Geography Theory. That theory is pretty lame, especially considering what past prophets and general authorities have spoken about regarding the Lamanites, even JS himself, throughout Church history. And how about that recent BoM introduction change :
http://www.sltrib.com/ci_7403990
Why try and do that on the sly ? Shouldn't the General Authorities say something to the members, rather then let the critics go crazy with it first ? Sneaky..... Didn't our prophet say in that 60 minute interview that the DNA evidence is just speculation and he had never heard of it before ? Seems like that change to the text is admitting its more then speculation.
Translation Errors from the King James Bible are in the Book of Mormon
Just a tidbit I thought I would also add. JS plagiarized large sections of the King James Translation of the Bible. You can see an analysis of this here. I thought he was a prophet and was supposed to have gotten those excerpts from the "golden plates" ?
A great wikipedia article can be found here.
More Conclusions
By this time in my research I've got a mountain of truths that are completely overwhelming my beliefs. And no, I'm not going to go and pray about it more, or read the scriptures some more or
It seems obvious to me that the Church has done a fantastic job of omitting unpleasant history and whitewashing other aspects of it. With what I know now, it is impossible for me to remain a member without completely feeling like a hypocrite in my mind every second I'm sitting in Church on Sunday.
For My Friends and Family
I know some of you reading this may already have done research like this, and already have this conflict in your heart and mind. Many of you probably don't want to rock the boat and risk losing approval of family members. Sometimes when a person goes through the process I have, they present the case to their spouses, and sometimes marriages end in divorce. Children and parents or other family can ostracize you. Interesting how people who claim to be members of God's Church on the earth can act toward their own family. I've read story after sad story.
I've read many exit stories from former members who had their entire lives disrupted because of their leaving. Do you think these people wanted to have all that heartache and pain ? Wouldn't it be easier to just pretend and keep going to Church ? Maybe. Some do. Some of you also have far more emotionally invested in the Church then me. I never went on a mission, and I never attended the temple with my wife.
Some of you may think this is why I'm leaving, that I never truly had a testimony. No ad hominem attacks please. You can't erase all the truth I'm pointing out by attacking flaws in my character.
Fortunately for me, my wife was never a religious person and only attended because of me. Also, my parents and siblings are all inactive. They could care less if I attend Church. I know others are not so lucky. My exit will still be unpleasant. I know some of you reading this may never want to speak to me again, and this saddens me, but I have to accept the bad with the good in all this.
I used to give guitar lessons to members, and even had a great time playing in a Church rock band. I would love to continue these activities but my leaving the Church will have a large impact on these things and I know I can never participate in anything with members the same way. I don't want to force anyone to feel uncomfortable around me.
My Spirituality
Now that I've left, I feel so happy. Its like a great weight has been lifted from me. For the first time in my life I feel like I can progress spiritually. Can you believe it ? I actually feel MORE spiritual now then I did in the Church. I've been reading philosophy and religious books like crazy since then and I'm soaking it all up. Its amazing. So many new thoughts for me to process now. Anything is possible. The Church literally had me by the spiritual balls. It puts a cap on your spiritual progress. You are confined to a box. Its hard to see it when you're in it, but its there.
Ever have that nagging sensation in the back of your head when attending Church that something is not quite right? Why shouldn't you be more happy here ? Why don't you feel as fulfilled as you are supposed to when following all the rules ? Is it something I'm doing wrong ? Am I not reading enough scripture ? Not praying enough ? Did I pay enough tithing this year ? Sound familiar ? You have reached your spiritual ceiling in the Church. All that is left, is attending meeting after meeting to hear the same thing over and over. Some of you find fulfillment in your callings, and thats good. Service to others is the most important thing in this life, and in this the Church excels. Service is an extension of your love for others.
Persuasion
I'm sure some of you will wish to talk to me, or even try to persuade me. Please don't just bear your testimony to me and expect me to do a 180. If you want to persuade me, you need to show me how JS translated a Book of Breathing for a guy named Hor into the Book of Abraham. You need to prove to me that JS didn't force other men's wives to marry him. You need to show me archaeological evidence that supports the Book of Mormon. In contrast, there is a ton of archaeological evidence to support the Bible.
In short, you probably need to read some of what I've read, and make some of the same journey as I did to truly understand my mind enough to have a conversation about this.
In Closing
I can probably write many pages more analyzing other things I've found. Brigham Young and his Adam-God theory, contradictory statements from prophets, racism, etc. I've said enough so you know my mind. I encourage any Mormons reading this to do their research. The Church wants you to invest a lot of your time and money into it. It is your responsibility to do your due diligence and make sure you really know.
I love you all and wish you the best in your lives.
14 comments:
Very well stated and hard to dispute. Thank you for sharing! I hope I can be this eloquent when expressing my reasons on leaving to my friends and family.
Thank for taking the time and effort to share your thoughts
and research sources.
I did go on a mission and did the temple thing - married there twice (different women, different times) and do have siblings, children and cousins still very 'brain-washed' and very deep into the mochurch.
My younger sister just recently did the, "I know it's true because of the burning boobs" routine on me - end of discussion. She didn't even want to hear that burning boobs is a everyday common human experience prompted by many stimuli.
Isn't it wonderfully liberating to seek spiritual reality outside the cluches of organized religion!
All the best to you and your family in your exciting new journey!
Dan
We all have the choice to determine when we've done enough research to reach conclusions about important questions. I've been researching these questions and many others for years, and for me, the jury is still out.
I personally do not think that several months of research can enable me to reach absolute conclusions about historical and theological questions that even the most brilliant historians and theologians in the world haven't been able to conclusively answer in their entire lifetimes.
What you say rings true, but everyone has a different path to follow. I suppose I can spend my entire life analyzing each side of an issue, but I would never feel the same way I did before I found most of this new information. I have to somehow rationalize what I knew, and what I know now into something I can live with and still be able to progress spiritually.
If theologians cannot answer my questions, then maybe the answer is we don't have an answer ? Perhaps I can find comfort in some of the many proposed answers out there, but I can no longer believe that Mormonism is the one true way. Is it hard to believe that humans have a spiritual destiny that is undetermined ? I think instinctively we seek for answers to the meaning of life, and religion is eager to please us. I can never deny the existence of human spirituality. We are all connected by it.
Don -
My friend. As a devout Mormon, I want you to first of all know that I will always consider you my friend regardless of your religious beliefs. While your decision to leave the church saddens me, it doesn't change how I feel about you: you're a good man, you're fun to hang around with, you're a cool guy, and you're an amazing guitarist. I'd still be honored to jam with you or hang out with you at any time.
You've opened up a bit on your own intellectual and spiritual journey, and I'd like to do the same. You've done extensive research, and if you desire, I will respond with similar, since I have done my own fair share of digging over the years. Yet I've come to a very different conclusion. I believe the Mormon church - The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints - is “true.”
While I am tempted to give an argument by argument rebuttal to the points you outlined, I won't do that unless you ask me to. Instead I feel like I should share my own "intellectual" journey. I grew up in Salt Lake City, Utah – the heart of Mormondom. I guess you could say that up through high school I always "hoped" that the church was true, but at that time I didn't feel that I "knew." I graduated Valedictorian of my high school, and felt like I was a pretty smart guy. I left the comforts of Utah to attend Dartmouth College in New Hampshire, where I was assaulted with a wide range of intellectual arguments against the church. I began reading anti-Mormon literature and questioning in earnest the beliefs of the church. I must point out that even though I found much that made me doubt, I found much that made me feel that the church had some solid intellectual grounds for its history and dogma. Example: the three witnesses all fell away from the church - a strong point against the church. Yet none of the three witnesses ever denied the things they had seen... angels, gold plates, visions, etc... so what kind of bizarre rationale would cause them to leave the church and yet not say that those things had been a lie? - a point in favor of the church. Point by point I went through much of the exercise that it looks like you went through... polygamy, Book of Abraham, BOM/Bible similarities, Adam/God theory, changes to the BOM (Dartmouth Library actually has an original copy of the first edition BOM I read in), feelings vs. Holy Ghost, temple/free masonry... and others as well... Hill Cumorah, Spaulding theory on BOM, etc. At the "end" of my intellectual searchings, I confess that I felt like the verdict was still out. There seemed to be compelling arguments on both sides.
Amidst my searching in logic and learning, I encountered a Dartmouth Medical Student who made me feel like an intellectual dwarf. I thought I was hot stuff for being Valedictorian of my high school - but he had been Valedictorian of the U of U. He believed in the Mormon church and proudly followed its doctrine, but he questioned everything and made others do the same...sometimes to the point of making them very uncomfortable - the polar opposite to the "blind obedience" that the church is sometimes accused of. It was this "brainiac" who helped me turn the corner from my "intellectual" journey to my "spiritual" journey. Among other things, he said to me, "A just God would not make a plan that only allowed the intellectuals to figure it out. A just and perfect God would figure out a way such that smart people and dumb people had an equal shot. And He did figure out the way, such that a smart man and a dumb man both learn the truth in the same place: on their knees."
And so, having studied much, I decided to put the "on my knees" challenge to the test. There, it turned from a logical and intellectual pursuit to one of faith and feelings - something that some intellectuals would criticize, but something which was nonetheless very real. I would be happy to elaborate more to you or anyone who is interested, but the long and short of it is this: I have seen enough, and felt enough, and had enough happen to me that I could never deny that God is real, that He has a plan for us, that Jesus is our Savior, that part of his plan is to have prophets, that one of His true prophets was Joseph Smith, and that another of His true prophets leads the Mormon church today. I know those things as certainly as I know anything else. Now, I don't think Joseph Smith or any other prophet (excluding Jesus) is or was perfect. And the Mormon church as a whole isn't perfect - far from it. But it's an integral part of God's plan, and it has more truth than any other source - of that I am certain.
Don, none of those arguments you mentioned are new. Even the DNA argument is over a decade old, even if it's only creeping up in the news in the past year. ALL of them have solid intellectual arguments on BOTH sides if you look hard enough. Like you I've sometimes wondered why Mormons don't display their intellectual arguments more prominently, or do more to "justify" their intellectual defense of the church. Sure, there are some groups like FARMS that do scholarly research, but you would be hard pressed to call any of the General Authorities of the church a true scholar. But they don't profess to be. That's why they don't stand on the podium and elaborate on the numerous other theories that shoot holes in the DNA criticism against the church. They probably know very little about DNA, but what they do know is of great worth.
I will say that if I (or true scholars in the Mormon church) were to argue point by point on each of the topics you mentioned, I think we could adequately address them and present some very compelling arguments that support the Mormon church in return. (For example, I’ve never heard a reasonable theory that explains away how the Book of Mormon came out of Joseph Smith…how could a young US farmboy know enough about caring for olive trees or ancient warfare to have pulled off those chapters?… but if it was someone else who wrote the Book of Mormon, how do you explain Joseph’s later revelations and leadership?). But I admit that at very best we would only bring you back to a point of uncertainty. Nothing we say could (or should) convince you absolutely that the Mormon church is “true.” And so it would still be up to you at that point to decide how best to judge your relationship with God, and how to interpret what He is telling you.
Personally, that’s why at this stage of my life I don’t spend much time “arguing” or seeking more complex answers to the criticisms against the church. I’ve never had much success with those kinds of arguments anyways, even when I’ve clearly “won” the argument… “a man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still.” Don - you know I teach from time to time in our Elders Quorum, and I’ve actually considered giving intellectually-based rebuttals to various criticisms, before coming to the conclusion that those types of lessons probably don’t make a man any better. I find it much more profitable and enjoyable to focus on what I feel will actually matter to me and my friends and family in the eternities. I personally believe it matters far more how kindly I treat others and how well I follow Christ’s teachings than how much I know about the scholarly community of Egyptian translation or the criticisms against the Bering-strait theory. And I think that’s probably the overarching social reason why the Mormon church as a whole focuses more on its “core” doctrine around Christ’s teachings and less on defending its peripheral theories and histories.
But I hope you don’t think for a moment that there aren’t very smart people out there who have thought long and hard about each and every point you’ve outlined, and who have come to a different conclusion than you – based on solid evidence and/or reasonable logic. And I hope you don’t think for a moment that Google is a more direct path to truth than direct revelation from God. To you or anyone else looking for answers, how often did you really pray to find out the truth? What is your ratio of time spent “researching” to time spent talking to God? To anyone who is spending more time reading anti-Mormon literature than reading the scriptures and praying, I will humbly submit that you are cheating yourself in your search for truth. Faith grows with nourishment and shrinks with neglect, and therefore a true “scientific experiment” of the veracity of any church would demand that you give it at least equal time.
Nevertheless, Don, I will respect your decision to leave the church, and I pray above all that you don’t push me or your other Mormon buddies away because it makes YOU uncomfortable. I’m happy to discuss the church as much or as little as you like, intellectually or spiritually. You’re a good man, Don, and a good friend that I hope to hang onto.
- Morgan
I am C&Ping this because I don't have time, but this was my first step into exmormonism. It made all too much sense to me
Pray to God and ask to be enlightened. The founder of the Mormon movement, Joseph Smith, did precisely this. Mormons believe that God and Jesus Christ appeared to him side by side, and told him that none of the then existing Christian denominations were the true religion. He was instructed to create a new denomination to restore Christianity to its first century CE [ http://www.religioustolerance.org/ce.htm ]purity before it fell into heresy.
This method appears to be unreliable. When people pray to God for enlightenment, most seem to conclude that their own religion and faith group is the true one. If people could access the will of God on this matter, then a vast majority of the world's population -- the folks who pray -- would realize that their faith group was not the true one. They would gradually migrate to the true religion. There would eventually be only one religion and one tradition within that religion left standing. Otherwise, people would be rejecting the will of God. All the other 11,000 religions and their tens of thousands of denominations or traditions would be phased out.
The OCRT, the group that sponsors this web site, conducted a pilot study to determine whether a person can assess the will of God through prayer. We used a controversial topic: whether God favors same-sex marriage for homosexuals and some bisexuals. The answer [ http://www.religioustolerance.org/god_pra2.htm ]that we found was that people appear to be unable to assess the will of God through prayer.
Communication from God: God could initiate a direct communication to humanity. In order to be convincing, it would have to be totally unambiguous, clear and convincing. One example might be for God to rearrange a few thousand stars to spell out in the evening sky the name of the true religion. Unfortunately, at least within the Judeo-Christian traditions, God seems to be progressively withdrawing from humanity. He walked in person with Adam and Eve. Later, he only appeared in rare occasions as at Mount Sinai. Still later, he communicated with humans only through prophets. Most Christians believe that Jesus Christ is God and walked among humans in first century CE Palestine. However, he was seen by only a miniscule percentage of the human race. Now, access to God is through prayer.
Unless God were to take the initiative, it appears that there is no way for humans to determine which religion is "true."
{quoted from http://www.religioustolerance.org site }
Don, I'd like to give you a bit of my personal manifesto:
The truth can withstand scrutiny.
If I conclude something is no longer true, I should continue to subject my current understanding of what the "truth" is to the same level of scrutiny that I've applied against the thing I've determined is not true. In other words, I have to be intellectually honest by keeping doors open that I think can be closed, because I might be wrong.
If I am going to evaluate the truthfulness of a claim or system of beliefs, I must have a complete and accurate understanding of it. It will probably take years and years of active study just to get to that point. If I don't completely and accurately understand a claim, I will be easily misled by "straw man" arguments; i.e., arguments where opponents of a position mischaracterize it (perhaps unintentionally) in order to easily knock it down. If I have an incomplete or incorrect understanding of what the position or claim is to begin with, I won't be able to recognize mischaracterizations, and therefore won't be able to recognize when I'm being misled. Rejecting an entire belief system that I do not completely or accurately understand based on my incorrect assumption that I DO understand it can be disastrous.
It is unwise for me to dismiss something I have not yet experienced for myself.
Reality and life are complicated and messy. I expect it. People, even the best people, can be deeply flawed. I expect to find serious shortcomings among even the best people. Even the most brilliant people can err in their judgment. Expect to find even brilliant people getting it wrong sometimes. People who are right 99% of the time will still be wrong 1% of the time.
History is as nebulous. Get 10 historians in a room and you'll get 20 different interpretations of a single historical document. I probably couldn't prove to you with exactness what I did and said on a given day just one year ago. Imagine trying to find out what someone did and said hundreds of years ago. Even if I find "documentary evidence," how do I know it's true? The fact that someone wrote something down a long time ago does not make it true. The ambiguity of history allows for historians to reach equally reasonable yet polar opposite conclusions. Therefore . . .
It is unwise for me to put my fate into the hands of historians, or even into History itself, particularly one of many competing groups of historians, even if they have a Ph.D. behind their name. I am not a Mormon because I think it has the most compelling historical narrative. History and my spirituality (i.e., the principles by which I choose to govern my life) are not dependent on one another.
Do not allow the "mote" in someone or something's eye to blind you to their many positive contributions. The fact that someone or something is wrong 1%, 5% or 10% of the time doesn't mean they weren't right 99%, 95%, or 90% of the time.
God would not create a system of truth that requires us to all have Ph.D's in archeology, linguistics, anthropology, etc. in order to arrive at the truth. A just and loving God would create a system accessible to even the most uneducated farmer in Africa or China or wherever.
God does communicate directly with individuals. Seeking His guidance is the best way to resolve questions and concerns. But it may take years or a lifetime to get the answers. The best I or anyone can do is to follow my conscience and what I believe God is telling me.
There are many, many, many things I still don't understand about God, Mormonism, etc. I expect I will die with more questions than answers. But I don't think leaving Mormonism is the best way for me to find answers to my questions about it. I think I'm best able to understand a belief system from within it, rather than outside of it.
I have had numerous demonstrations of the truthfulness of Mormonism that would be intellectually irresponsible of me to ignore. That said, there are aspects of Mormonism that may be flawed or incomplete, but that's one of our Articles of Faith, so it doesn't worry me.
I'm more than happy to discuss any of these issues with you. You've been a bro of mine and will continue to be.
-Andrew
M and A, thanks for your comments.
I'm very open minded. I've always been open minded. I'm not dismissing Mormonism completely but I'm deciding its not the one true church on the earth. It has many strong points for members spiritually, but weak points in is own history. If someday my studies bring me back to Mormonism, then I can certainly change my mind. I admit that the more I know, the more I realize I don't know.
I am certainly not saying people who believe in Mormonism are dumb, or they cannot objectively view criticism, but I believe the Church environment and culture pressures members against this kind of investigation.
Why don't we bring up discussions about the Book Of Abraham and its controversy AT CHURCH in Sunday School ? A direct examination of the issue is important. By not addressing this with members, it appears to me like that don't ask don't tell policy the army has. We can't ignore it.
Its great that you guys can be open about this with me, and that our beliefs will not change our friendship. Maybe I should have just asked these questions to one of you ?
Google is in fact a great resource and should not be dismissed. You have to be able to sift through the BS as well as the good, and this is a skill in an of itself. Many documents that portray church history or dogma in a negative light are hosted by other Christian denominations. This can be an obvious turn off to the data because it can be assumed the data is biased. With that said, I can also turn to the churches own publications and official history and find a lot of the things that concerned me.
There is no need to go head to head with each issue with you guys. We will just go in circles forever. There are good arguments on both sides. I know we will have a discussion in the future outside of the internet and in person.
Let me make an observation. Where I grew up in Sacramento, what I said on my web page would have caused a lot of trouble with members. There would have been many I know who would never want to speak to me again. In fact there are members of my step father's family who will not be pleased at all to read what I said. I believe there is a big difference in church culture between members there, and those I have attended church with in Irvine. I feel like the Irvine ward is a lot more liberal. Maybe its because you guys are all too educated :) Just curious what you thought of that.
You expressed your thoughts well, and I couldn't agree more with your decision to leave the church. I was shocked, sad, hurt, and spent many nights reading everything I could get my hands on and I came to the same conclusions. Thank you very much for sharing the letter, and I wish you well on your new path in life!!!
NOTHING in this world will ever convince or persuade a "believer" of mormonism to change their belief system. They must do it on their own. That's why I really don't think it is necessary to explain the "why i am leaving" because tbm's simply won't get it. If the path you choose makes you happy, and a different path makes someone else happy, who are we to try to persuade them otherwise?
Otherwise I enjoyed reading your story and fully understand your decision to exit. Congrats!
Don,
Whether or not you are a Mormon, I will always consider you a friend. Please say "hi" to JS and K (not sure if I am allowed to use their names). I will miss seeing them at church. Looking forward to our next practice.
Eric, first names are fine, I don't really mind.
Thanks for your kind words and I look forward to our next practice as well.
Thanks for your post. I thoroughly enjoyed reading it. I've gone through a similar process recently.
For a long time I've been very uncomfortable with the church's treatment of women and gays. While people can argue about history and historical sources (which was Joseph Smith's first 'spiritual wife for example?), you cannot convincingly argue to me that the church's current treatment of women and gays is not discriminatory and wrong, and that it's former treatment of black men fell into the same category.
I am the father of five young children, and do not want them to grow up thinking that women are not good enough to lead in decision making positions in the church.
I want them to be generous and forgiving people. Accepting of diversity, but still able to stand up against intolerance and injustice.
Good luck in your journey from here my friend.
Rich
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